WILLIAMS in Manchester 1871

[hazelmoore]

Can anybody help please?! My Grandmother's family lived in Manchester until 1880-ish. On 1881 Census they are in London but all children including a 2 year old were Manchester born. I know Thomas and Mary were married at the Parish Church of St. John, Manchester but I have no address. Is there any possibility of finding them in the 1871 Census? Their ages would be as follows:

Thomas WILLIAMS Head M Male 29 Denbigh, Wales Joiner
Mary WILLIAMS Wife M Female 31 Denbigh, Wales
Jane WILLIAMS Daur U Female 6 Manchester Fancy Box Maker
Mary WILLIAMS Daur Female 2 Manchester Scholar

They had another 3 children before moving South.

Any help would be gratefully received!

Thanks in advance.

Hazel

[Gram McGlynn]

Plenty info on this one Hazel
12 Rose Grove ,Ardwick
Thomas Williams 29 Joiner b.Denbigh
Mary Williams 31 b.Llandegla
Jane Williams 6 b.Manchester
John J Williams 4 b.Manchester
Mary Williams 2 b.Manchester
John H Williams 23 brother Joiner b.Denbigh
Jane Owens 57 Mother in law ,Servant nurse b.Corwen
David Jones 31 Widower , Cousin, Foreman joiner b.St Asaph

[hazelmoore]

Hi Gram,
Is it still cold in Leigh?! It's really hot here now!!
Well, you've come up trumps again - thank you very much. You have found me a brother (John J. aged 4) to my Grandmother (born 1873) that I didn't know about - he didn't make it to London! Any chance of you finding a Death entry anywhere? They were in London by 1881 and last child born in Manchester was in 1879
Thanks again
Hazel

[Gram McGlynn]

Hi again,can`t find any death records for John,but could he have been a bad lad? Found a Jno Williams age 14 born Manchester,described as a Reformatory boy.
The address given is Clarence,Eastham,Cheshire. Clarence must be the name of a boat as there are seaman instructors in attendance.
If you go to Familysearch.org and type PAPERA in the surname box it will take you the page for John.
P.S Leigh`s warm and wet,very wet.

[hazelmoore]

Hi Gram,
This certainly sounds like it could be him, unfortunately there are so many Williams' about - not like my Goalens, they're much easier!!
Anyway thanks again for taking the trouble!
Bye for now,
Hazel